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Are all three piece balls the same? In today's technology I wonder if you are buying brand name or is there a difference? I have tried them all and can't tell the difference. If you ask someone, I think you get their preference. So, Is it worth spending $45.00 a dozen for Titliest, Nike and Callaway or $19.99 for the GAMER from Top Flite. Even the Bridgestone E6 is $23.99. Why spend more? MARTY
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That's a good question. Every ball is different and reacts different when it's hit & when it lands. I have tried Pro V1's and I didn't care for them much. The e6+ was excellent and I'll take it over a Pro V1 any day. High dollar balls like Pro V1's, Nike One, etc. aren't for everyone so, if you try them and they don't work for you why spend the extra money? "Froggie" Brown ----- Life Member Since October 2006 -----
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45 members looked at this and one response only? I guess no one knows the difference in 3 piece balls. I say it's the price your willing to pay. Thanks James for posting your thoughts. And I think your right about (paying) playing the right ball for your game. I find alot of high price balls on the courses I play and I think, that's gotta hurt..A $4 ball lost in a round hurts. How many balls do amatuer's lose in a round?? The E6+ is the best ball for the price and comes in at $2 a ball. Does the same output as others I've tried and 'That's all I have to say about that'!!! Anybody else? Jump in... MARTY
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Marty, the Titlest ProV and the Nike Platinum and the Callaway HX Tour I as well as most "pricey, Tour Balls are 4 Four piece balls they are designed for low driver spin...distance and lost of Backspin or feel around the green with wedges. Thats what I understand anyway. I know Ro0okie will be able to give you more info as well as links to sites. It takes hi9m some time as he has a crazy work schedule. I would suggest you get ahold of Golf Magazines webb site They did a test on the different types of balls. I hope this helps..as for guys looking and not posting that has been going on for a long time! Keep it in the short grass!
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I really need to go to bed tonight cause I have to be up in 5 hours, but I'm gonna respond to this real quick (well, probably lengthy, but I'm gonna respond).
First, the Golf Magazine article I wanted to link doesn't exist on their site anymore, or I can't get it to work right. Regardless, I went and found my hard copy of the article to use the data. I can't search specific things like I could with the article, so I'm going to go off of the balls you posted only.
First we'll talk about spin. Their test used a robot set to 76 MPH swing speed, 80 MPH ball speed, 38.5 degree launch angle, and 10,500 RPM's using a sand wedge.
The spin numbers for the 3 balls you mentioned are as follows: Pro V1: 11,914 RPM e6+: 7,651 Freak: 5,310
They were listed as high, medium and low spin respectively.
They suggest you determine your spin index. To do this answer the following 4 questions: 1. Do you hit lots of hooks/slices? Yes= -1, No=+1 2. Do you need to get up and down often: Yes=+1, No=-1 3. Do you prefer your iron shots to hit and roll? Yes=-1, No=+1 4. Can you "work" the ball? Yes=+1, No=-1
If you scored +2 to +4, then you need a high spin ball If you scored +1 to -1 then medium spin is right If you scored -2 to -4, the you need a low spin ball
Simple right? You just have to find the articles to see which ones fall in what categories and their numbers. I play the One Platinum, it's also the highest spin ball out of the 54 tested. I like to spin the ball and work the ball a lot, and it fits the best for my game. It's a tad shorter for me than some of the players balls I have played, but I do like it's performance.
Next test, distance. Robot set to 90 MPH swing, 137 ball speed, 13.75 degree launch, 2,900 RPM.
Pro V1: 249.0 e6+: 251.7 Freak: 254.5
The freak was longer, this due to the harder cover and additional roll. Titleist was softer, and spin more, leading to more carry and less roll. e6+ was middle of both, and in the middle on distance. Of the 54 tested, 35 were within 8 yards of each other. Distance, how important is it?
My laptop is acting goofy, so I'm going to cut it short here, I'll try to go deeper tomorrow, but those are the numbers thus far.
Personally, I think it's a thing of what you are most confident in, and which you shoot the better scores with. Another thing is how much are you willing to spend? I don't mind spending $45 a dozen on the One, Pro V1, Tour iX, etc because they fit me best. The numbers I don't have time to post will reflect that higher swing speeds benefit more from lower swing speeds using a player's ball because of the ability to get the most out of them and their performance characteristics. Still, it all boils down to personal preference and what works for you. I like my high dollar 3 piece because I shoot better scores with them. That's my preference.
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Great post Rookie, But you ended with the very thing I said..It is a preference and that's what you get when you ask a store worker. Even a ball fitting which can tell you good info, still comes down to someone's opinion. Like you said it depends on how much you are willing to spend. A good middle ball will work for most players yet they are talked in to a high dollar ball. Surely a weekend warrior doesn't work the ball enough to matter. Just trying to save guys money. MARTY
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For me, confidence comes from the ball I hit straight. I know what I plan on doing with the ball on every shot, and I know how my game relies on spin. I use the ball that provides favorable distance (shorter than some of the balls I've hit) while allowing me to make a wedge squat and do gymnastics to get back to the pin. I choose the high spin model. Some players don't play the same style I do, so yes, a cheaper and less spin model of a ball will work for them. The mid range players will not see many differentresulat from ball to ball because they don't work the ball, spin the ball, etc. They predicate their game on the longest tee ball they can get and make do with the lack of spin. I know my game and what suits me, and how I play, so I choose the ball that works best for me. That's what I meant by personal preference. They have to know their game and know their abilities. If you're not using every wedge shot imaginable then of course you don't need to spin the ball. I, on the other hand play 5 wedges at times to be able to do practically anything with the ball around the green that I want. That's where I shave strokes, getting up and down when I have to and being able to wedge it close. I like hitting to a higher tier on the green and spinning it back down to the pin. Some others would prefer to chip the ball and let it run up. They don't need the spin, I do. I pay moer for that performance, but it's what I expect out of my game to shoot lower scores. Different strokes for different folks. There is a difference in the balls though.
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I understand clearly what you are saying and Yes there is a difference. I see alot of people with more ball than they need and I watch them slice them in the woods. Like you said...Know your game! And stop wasting money just so you can have the best equipment. It doesn't make you look any better if your game doesn't back it up.. MARTY
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Even the best equipment cant fix a bad swing. I don't put a lot of money in golf balls and usually look for clearence or sell items. My game is taking shape and once I get my swing under control and my handicap down I'll look at better equipment. Right now I just focus on my game and I have made some progress. "Froggie" Brown ----- Life Member Since October 2006 -----
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Right on the money James..Me too...I don't let anybody tell me what to use and what is best for my game. I listen to my instructor and take his advice on swings and controlling shots but not on equipment. At my current game a high dollar ball is not going to help and the same goes for most. I mean spend what you want but until you are like Rookie and can control shots, a regular ball will do... MARTY
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One of my fellow golf league members who is also a Partners Club member, received a sleeve of Nike Golf Balls from the club for testing. I believe they were the Nike Power Distance which I am pretty certain is a 2 piece ball. He is 70 years old and is always saying to me, boy I wish I could hit that far and I am not a particularly long hitter. Well last night with these new balls, I saw a different fellow, and I told him at one point I was putting my ball back into the bag since he out drove me on that hole. He played his best round of golf for the year, 4 over, I was 6 over but not playing him in league thank heavens, and I had never seen him hit shots with all of his clubs as long as he hit that ball. Don't know if it was the new balls or the weather, Hazy Hot and Humid in the 90's with no wind at all, but I was as excited as he was to see him hit that way. He will definitely go and buy a box of them. Point being, a cheaper ball, or for him free, made a happy golfer.
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Marty, thank goodness for the people who play more ball than they should because they keep me in ProV's, HX Tour's, and all the other toplevel balls I play. MJ, TOSTSTP
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To true MJ nothing like putting that 89 cents ball in the woods loosing it and coming out with a Pro V and a couple og Bridgstones B330S and an ocassional Nike 1 Platinum!!! Keep it in the short grass!
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Kevin, it's funny you mention that. When I slice a ball in the deep stuff or in the woods I find all the lost balls EXCEPT for mine ? I just know when I walk away the guy behind me will slice one too and find mine ... LOL . I don't spend $$$ on the good balls but If I find them I have no problem playin them :-) "Froggie" Brown ----- Life Member Since October 2006 -----
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All because some guy in a store said..'This is the ball you need to play'..Cha-Ching!!! Another satisfied customer..Until he gets to the course and then 'Aw Crap...Help me look for my ball', meanwhile backing up the course for a 10 minute search in the woods. BUT, give him a cheap ball and it's 'Don't worry about it I've got more'..PLEASE DON'T GET ME WRONG..I love finding your high dollar balls and it saves me money. But I hate waiting while someone looks for a ball he shouldn't be using to begin with......smroot, The 2 piece ball is great for slower swing speeds and the green box Nike's are good balls as long as you don't crush them... MARTY
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I just came back from Wal-Mart and they had both Nike One Platinum and Black for $39.88
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You know I actually did my experimenting with golf balls. I wanted to know which ball would work out better for me. I love Nike products and have since I was a kid but I really wanted to know if they make the best golf balls for me. I used to play with whatever I could get cheap. As I got better I bought better. Several months ago I started to experiment. I wanted to know which ball would be as long as I would like off the tee and roll somewhat after that, and at the same time do exactly what I wanted to do short game wise. I started with the Wilson Staff Fifty-Fifty. I actually liked this ball. It was soft off the tee, rolls well on the green but I had a hard time controlling it on chip shots and shots that I needed to hit high and stop. Next up were the Precept U-Tri Extra Distance. I actually hated this ball the most for some reason. Didn't do anything for me. Then I tried the Top Flite Freak. Very long ball off the tee, but for short game it didn't appeal to me. It would drop and roll too far. Then I went to the Nike Ignite. This was at that point the longest ball I had hit. Tremendous roll on the fairway and not too shabby in the short game either. The Callway HX Hot Bite was next, long ball off the tee. Great control on the green. Leaves one gigantic divot. I was surprised this ball spun out of the divot actually. Putts great as well. Last but not least was the Nike One Black. I hit my longest drive ever with this ball (335 yards). Off the fairway I was able to do exactly what I wanted to do with this ball. It gets high when I need it to and comes down nice and soft. Needed spin....got spin. This is my ball. I was told on Monday that the Nike One Platinum or the Callway Tour I are the best golf balls for me by my instructor. My two cents.......play the ball that plays WITH you and not against you. MegaDad
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I haven't tried the Gamer yet but, I do have a 2-ball sleve I want to try as soon as I can get to the course & I'll let you know what I think of them "Froggie" Brown ----- Life Member Since October 2006 -----
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I thought the 'Gamer' was a good ball and surely the $19.99 price is great. It was working for me as well as the Callaway Hx Hot's I normally play with. Try for yourself and 'That's all I can say about that.' MARTY
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I have always heard that Bridgestone balls are priced right." Best ball for the buck". At a 15 handicap, could a ball really help me??
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I feel the right ball will help your game. as to lower scores thats up to the individual. It seems much has been made of the ball characteristics of late. If you are a hacker 30 like me you need a ball the will go far, and may be even stay in the fairway. Why because we need a ball that the cover is tougher so as not to develop spin and allow the ball go far!! Kinda like someone wrote "Hulk smash ball!!!" The better player those with lower handicaps and THE ABILITY TO WORK THE BALL!!! such as draw or fade on demand and not luck!! spin around the green and with high lofted clubs. I have read about Bridgestone doing ball fittings, I don't know much about it because we don't get a lot of stuff like that in Hawaii as we have no large golf retailers. It seems they see how you swing and hit then match you with a ball with the right characteristics for you. I guess its like getting fitted for the right clubs, its more than length, The pro at the local Muni is a certified Fitter for Taylor Made and he has fitted a couple of people I play with one woman went from a 34 to a 23 in six months so the confidence factor comes in to play. If you are confident with your equipment I feel you play better goes for the right ball. As has been said many times in many ways you gotta be comfortable with you stuff. Keep it in the short grass!
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bogeyochs wrote: I have always heard that Bridgestone balls are priced right." Best ball for the buck". At a 15 handicap, could a ball really help me?? Yes it can and you should try different balls and find the one for you or be fitted..Try the E6+, I think you'll like it...
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KevinB & Marty, THANKS!! I'm going to try a new ball. The E6+ is first on my agenda. Been using the Titelist XT's and the Callaway Bertha's. My course doesn't sell Bidgestone, but I know a store that does. How about Srixon balls?? bogeyochs
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Never tried them..I usually use Callaway HX Hot but lately I have kept the Bridgestone E6+ in my bag. Does everything I need at my game level. MARTY
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I'm almost a single digit handicaper and I'll be honest. To me playing the prov1's vs the gamer and the e6, I find no difference. All these years and I finally realized that unless your Tiger Woods the only difference in balls are the three I just mentioned check up more then the Callaway Xhot, have not tried the xhot bite yet. I'm currently using the e6 and can hit it 300 yds or more and it checks up nice, no reason to spend $50 bucks. Just my opinion.
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Alan that HX Hot Bite checks up pretty nicely. I play this ball a lot more lately. The only thing I don't like is that it leaves a monster size divot in the green! I keep forgetting to take my camera phone so people can see what I mean by that. Chip shots with the right touch hit the green and seemingly stick to the green. Wonderful ball for sticking shots close to the pin. MegaDad
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Twin, Is it true your posting at 3:00 am??? Welcome to fatherhood and floor walkings...Enjoy, they grow so fast..Anyway, so the new question is...Callaway Bites or the E6+?? Keeping in this price range and not against the $35 or higher range..We all know Pro V's are great, so are all the high $ balls. But for your money and performance of ball playing...Which is better Bites or E6+????? MARTY
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Marty, I was only up that early because I had to be at work this morning. My son was up at 1:45 a.m.....As far as your new question goes, I can't speak to the E6+ as I have only hit this ball at the PGA Tour Superstore. I like the Callway HX Hot Bite. It's reasonably priced at $29.99. It plays pretty long off the tee. It definitely will hold the green on approach shots and chip shots. I think it putts pretty good too. When I don't play a Nike One Black I play the HX Hot Bite. MegaDad
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Yep, work sux.., next weekend I will try the HX Bite. I'll let you know. I do like Callaway's, it's just the E6+ is $23.99, priced a little better. Demo time.... MARTY
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I just product-tested the Bridgestone e6+ last Wednesday. I'm a high-handicapper - unofficial 26. I usually play Pinnacle Gold FX Soft. I found the e6+ to be longer for the driver and fairway woods/hybrids. However, the e6+ didn't perform as well for my intermediate irons, short irons, pitching, or chipping. I could tell no difference in putting. Dan Bilitz
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Dan, THANKS!! for the info on thee6+!! It sounds like I really need to try it. It long off the tee & I need that. The short iron performance won't be a problem for me as I always knock the ball into the cup with my short irons. Did I ever tell you that I'm a LIAR??
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Yeah that the ticket Bogey, I take my wedge hit the ball it digs a hole moves the cup and puts the pin back! It tends to upset my playing partners especialy when they go first and stick it!! Keep it in the short grass!
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You're welcome, bogey! I'd definitely recommend the e6+ for high-, or even mid-handicappers, who want some extra distance off the tee. I also forgot to mention that I drove the Bridgestone slightly straighter than my Pinnacle FX Soft. Of course, I'm envious about your ability to hole out with your intermediate irons! LOL Do you give lessons? Dan Bilitz
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After reading a few of the posts the one that really jumps out at me is the story of looking for your inexpensive ball in the woods and coming out with some real gems. I have to sons who play on the local high school golf team so I'm walking the course with them at each match. Boy have I stocked up in the last two years. I have so many golf balls now that I'm being pretty selective about what I keep. If your not in to spending a lot of money on a good ball, I don't, try the Wilson Pro Staff 'Zip'. Very comparable to the Pro VI and the Nike One. The best thing is it comes at half the cost.
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Twins, Thanks for the info, I will try it. I really liked the regular xhot. Twinsdad30 wrote: Alan that HX Hot Bite checks up pretty nicely. I play this ball a lot more lately. The only thing I don't like is that it leaves a monster size divot in the green! I keep forgetting to take my camera phone so people can see what I mean by that. Chip shots with the right touch hit the green and seemingly stick to the green. Wonderful ball for sticking shots close to the pin. MegaDad
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Thanks for this excellent discussion. Frankly, my game is not yet such that I work the ball or spin it much, so in an effort to keep costs down I'll play balls that are less that top drawer--unless, of course, I find them. However, when playing with the high end balls such as a Platinum or Pro V1, I seem to play better. That said, I carry them almost as if they were good luck charms because I find them too precious to play with much and they increase my tension over the ball. Crazy. I never like hitting into water, but it's OK to hit a less expensive ball into water. Not a good ball -- it bothers me.
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Yep, I agree with you Gary. I lack the confidence to play with high dollar balls, even when I find them, and I get upset when I lose them , even if I found them..That is why I recommend the 'Gamer' or Bridgestone E6+... MARTY
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It seems as Ive read back through this post, that there is a lot of comparisons between the Gamer and the E6. I was looking through that article in Golf magazine and I noticed a huge difference in the spin rate between the 2 (the Gamer was listed as high and the E6 was either near the bottom of the mid or top of the low catagory) As far as Bridgestones go, the E5 was alot closer to the Gamer. Does the spin rate really mean that little? To hit a truly awful shot in golf, mere incompetence is not enough... you really need an audience
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The more the ball spins after contact the more things can go wrong. Gary, I have always felt that by using a old or cheaper ball I am being somewhat of a defeatist and giving up. By using a good ball I have confidence in I gain confidence in my ability. Or I just say water, what water? MJ, TOSTSTP
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The best ball I have played so far has been the e6+. I have tried ProV1's and they just didn't work for me, why I'm not sure ? The e6+ had very little side spin and I was able to keep it in the fairway. I only had a sample 2 ball sleve and I haven't purchased any e6+ although I really should. "Froggie" Brown ----- Life Member Since October 2006 -----
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I have always liked Wilson's. I have been using the Wilson 50 but I will try the Zip as soon as I run out of the 50's. Keep it in the short grass!
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This has been an interesting read, as someone said early in the discussion. I've hit a lot of different three piece balls. The most inexpensive was the Tour JD (for John Daly) that was made by Dunlop. I'm not sure if they make that anymore. It was a decent ball, lasted a long time. There is the HX Hot, as everyone has said, which has been my ball of choice recently, and I like it much better than the Bertha. I was able to buy a dozen Tour 56, and played that when I played this year, loved the ball. I've also played the Tour Deep by Ben Hogan, which is a good ball but it bruises easily and has a very soft cover, or just thin one. I haven't hit Bridgestone, Srixon, or Nike, but the Nike performance series plays like some of the three piece balls of other manufacturers, so I'm sure I would like the Nike balls. I've liked three piece balls for a long time, just because I seemed to get better results with them than I did with two-piece balls. I agree with everyone that has opined that you should play the ball that is best for your game. I'm one of those that does not try to spin the ball on the green, but I am one of those that knows how to hit quite a number of shots and I can usually hit soft shots, cuts, fades, and draws when I want to. I've been known to hit a high spin shot every now and then, as well as the explosion shot. And I have been practicing hitting the ball different heights. If only I could put everything together now. I do have a spin shot that I have practiced, but I have never known when to incorporate it during a round. I think it has helped playing with the three piece balls. But I may be asking for too much right now, I fractured a bone in my right foot recently, June 3rd, and just recently had the cast I was sporting removed (I was practicing my golf swing, made a lateral movement, and the foot stopped rolling over, and popped - boy did that hurt!). There is still a little pain when I tap my foot to a beat, and when I take normal strides, but it is better than it was last month. At least I can stand on the whole foot now.
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I have enjoyed reading the discussion about the three piece balls....distance, spin, carry, roll etc., however, can anyone talk about the durability of the cover of these balls. I spin the ball with my wedges and it seems that with the ProV1, and the Nike Black that after a few wedge shots I have scuffed the cover bad enough to where it will effect the roll of the ball on putts. What on your thoughts on the best ball for this problem.
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tacjet, weclome to the posts ! "Froggie" Brown ----- Life Member Since October 2006 -----
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Good question tacjet, The outer covers are softer and this is what helps create spin and helps ball to hold the green. The trade for this is a cover that wears faster. The bad part is, you paid $4.00 a ball for ProV1 or Nike Black and can't even make it thru 18 holes with the same ball, If you are striking down on ball in order to gain backspin..easy to scuff cover and this could effect ball flight and putting..I wonder how many balls the Pro's use during a round? If you are not rich, I would suggest the Bridgestone E6+ ..... MARTY
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Tacjet, welcome to the forums! I have been playing Nike One Blacks for a few months now and I haven't noticed any scuff marks on any of mine. Sometimes I have played the same ball for 3 rounds. I'll definitely be paying more attention to that now. MegaDad
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This is how I see it. Pro V balls have a soft cover and is also thinner than other balls and made of urethane.The thin urethane cover allows the ball to compress more and lets the grooves on the club bite into the ball more producing more spin, lets talk about what compress means. To compress the ball and get spin YOU MUST HIT DOWN ON THE BALL AND HIT IT SOLD NO FAT OR THIN HITS most average golfers don't hit down and through the ball so it doesn't matter what ball you use it will seem the same to you. Also the grooves on the club are the other thing that puts spin on the ball if the grooves are worn or dirty you get no spin. So Pro V balls and nike platinum are great for spin. There are a lot of factors involved so you have to see whats best for you.
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tacjet, I too played the pro v1 and nike one black and switched to the callaway hx tour just for that reason. Durability! (and a bit more distance I might add). They were a tad hard I admit and now I love playing callaway's ix which replaced the hx tour. They have the right amount of softness, are still durable and provide the right amount of spin, distance and feel for my walkabouts. You might give them a try. Cheers from the Pacific NW!
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Robraider wrote:After reading a few of the posts the one that really jumps out at me is the story of looking for your inexpensive ball in the woods and coming out with some real gems. I have to sons who play on the local high school golf team so I'm walking the course with them at each match. Boy have I stocked up in the last two years. I have so many golf balls now that I'm being pretty selective about what I keep. If your not in to spending a lot of money on a good ball, I don't, try the Wilson Pro Staff 'Zip'. Very comparable to the Pro VI and the Nike One. The best thing is it comes at half the cost.
Rob, I have demoed the Zip. I found a few things. It is too mushy for higher swing speeds, meaning the compression rate is too low. It compresses too much and you lose energy transfer. It is supposed to have a virtual zero compression rate. It is a great ball for my cousin, whom is a junior golfer, as he has a slower swing speed. Those with higher swing speeds will lose distance though, as I did. I will use it or the 50/50 as my winter ball though, when temperatures raise compression rates.
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tacjet wrote:I have enjoyed reading the discussion about the three piece balls....distance, spin, carry, roll etc., however, can anyone talk about the durability of the cover of these balls. I spin the ball with my wedges and it seems that with the ProV1, and the Nike Black that after a few wedge shots I have scuffed the cover bad enough to where it will effect the roll of the ball on putts. What on your thoughts on the best ball for this problem.
Tac, The old Pro-V, if you can find them on eBay (the 2005 model) does not scuff as bad as the new one. And if you like the One Black, you should really try the One Platinum. I, too, spin the ball. I buy Blacks when they are out of Platinums, but my ball of choice is the Platinum because of the fact that it spins more, yet the cover is more durable. I don't know how to explain how they did that, but it's the honest truth. I've been playing the new Platinum for a few months now and I have been able to go through multiple 18's several times with the same ball. The only time I really scuff them is if they hit the cart path or a tree or something and it gouges into them. My wedges are square grooved, but they don't chew up the ball like the Black or new Pro-V.
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